tallslenderguy

I go back and forth on this. First off, after 30 years of getting fucked, my hole is definitely more permanently open. I read a lot of guys here whose experience is their hole goes back to tight. Mine sure doesn't. I don't know if it's because of the frequency that I get fucked or because of the larger toys I have used, but my hole is doesn't have nearly the tightness it used to, both the opening and internally. And I don't work it or get fucked daily. When I am working (13 hour shifts), I don't have time to get fucked or play, just eat, sleep and work. I work one week on, then have one week off, so usually on my first day off I am horny as fuck and want as much as I can get. I have a long, flexible shower douche. It's pretty slender, about finger size. Once I start douching, my opening opens right up and for the life of me feels just like a pussy, i.e., it's a slit with lips vs a round puckered hole. It takes almost no time at all for me to get a good sized dildo in if I think I'm going to be taking a big cock, also, I do a big, long dildo to make sure any water past the inner sphincter is all out. But my hole opens right up, not at all like it used to be.... This all seems fairly recent, like within the last year or so. It may have to do with the size of toys I have used. I have little to no desire to open my own hole, my hole is very connected to my tops. About a year ago I had a Dom top approach me on asspig and he started initiating hole training with me. It was all online, which wasn't very fulfilling, but I'm enough of a sub slut that I went along with him to some degree. He encouraged me to get bigger toys in order to open my hole more, and it's my impression that using those toys, even for just the short time I did, permanently opened me more. I still have muscle control, maybe even more from exercising clenching those toys, so I can milk and squeeze a tops cock when he's in me, but my opening is not as tight as it used to be and never returns to that tightness. My inner hole varies. Sometimes it gets swollen and puffy inside, I imagine that must feel pretty good on a cock, other times it feel like a cave to me and there are certain types of tops who find that incredibly hot... which is the only reason I'd do it. Bottom line, so to speak, I "train" my hole only in response to a particular top who I am wanting to please. Without that guy, I don't train to open it, feels to much like fucking myself and I am too much of a bottom to top myself lol. A lot of it for me has to do with the energy dynamic (cerebral) of the top/dom who wants to kind of put his signature on my hole, I am very responsive to that, but again, I do it to please the top/dom involved.

No, that wouldn't be sterile. Sterile technique is actually pretty complex and I doubt anyone who engages in cath or sound play achieves it. It involves having all sterile supplies as well. The lube we typically use for sex doesn't even start that way, and definitely isn't once it's been opened and used. Sterile supplies come in sterilized wrappers and then you create a sterile field to work in, wear sterile gloves, etc.. None of that remotely happens during sex. We're really picky about it in a hospital setting, but there are lots of bacteria in a hospital setting that you won't necessarily find in your home lol. There are lots of patients who straight cath at home with no infection issues. So though sounding and cath play is not risk free, it is not as risky as it may seem. If you want to do your best to avoid infection, here's some things you can do. You can get sterile lube in individual, single use packets, likely at most drug stores, or a medical supply outlet. Wash your hands with soap and water while singing happy birthday to yourself twice (to make sure you wash long enough, nothing magic in the song lol). If you are sounding or reusing catheters, clean them off with peroxide... but rinse the peroxide off before inserting it. Don't put things in your ass, then in your urethra (i.e., your piss hole). We have 100 trillion bacteria living in our gut, but our bladder is a sterile environment, you can get a pretty nasty infection if you introduce bacteria from your ass into your bladder.

okay, this is incredibly hot. I've only cathed myself once to see how it would feel, kind of stingy and painful. But I'm a bottom with a sub streak that some kinds of Doms really bring out in me. I go weak when seduced. The idea of a Dom type cathing me so he can piss in my bladder is a whole different marking that has never occurred to me. Makes something inside of me quiver and my legs spread kind of involuntarily.

Different guys have different levels of urethral sensitivity. As a nurse, I've put a lot of caths in and early on I put one in myself because I wanted to know what my patients are feeling. Some say it is painful, others don't care, it runs the spectrum. I found it was somewhat painful. All cath kits have lube and the technique is to just coat the first inch or two (carefully, it's a sterile technique). For those who find it painful, I get a 10 ml syringe with lidocaine jelly in it and inject it into the ureethra first, so as to it being a "good idea", it depends on the guy getting cathed.

This is so cool to me FelchingPisser, because you are so aware. I love mindful fuckers, I am so much more connected and it elevates the whole experience for me. And your after attention to a fucked hole made my groin ache and open. One of the permanent changes to my hole is it no longer puckers like an ass hole, especially after being fucked. When fucked in a particular way, it ends up with puffy lips. I remember the first top who made it that way. He spent a lot of time rimming, tonguing, fingering and toying my hole. He was so smooth and skilled at what he was doing that I didn't realize that he was really sucking on my hole, encouraging and forming lips. The change he made to my body was probably one of the most intimate and biggest turn ons of connecting with another guy that I have experienced. Several here have talked about how hot it is to get another guys DNA, and the possibility of it altering the bottom. It brings out an almost primal response in me when I perceive a top has left his signature (of sorts) on me. The hottest thing is when I discover the change he has made in me llater, not necessarily at the time it is happening. The tops I remember and end up loving are the ones who have an almost artistic talent and skill where their process of topping is not just fucking, but affecting and creating changes in the bottom, be they physical or psychological, or both.

As a bottom, many of my profiles that include a "looking for" section include the descriptor: "looking for ass obsessed top or Dom." Loved Marc Short's long contribution. He is, no doubt, many a bottoms dream top. His willingness and ability to articulate what and how he likes it is also a definite hot factor. My experience leads me to think there guys out there who just wanna fuck and get off, my perception is they are obsessed with fucking. But in a different way, there are others who truly love ass and it shows in how they approach it. They have all sorts of ways, in addition to breeding, that they express their desire. Like rimming/tongue fucking, fingering, fisting, massaging, caressing, spanking, toys, pissing and...? For me, there is an energy that this kinda top expresses that totally captivates me. I have found that getting 'it' is what drives me as a bottom, maybe even more than the cum? I've had a fb who never even bred me, but he was ass obsessed and what he would leave me with was as satisfying as cum. I guess it was his mark and his energy, which for me is what getting bred is all about. An exchange between two guys where it seems a part of the top is imparted to the bottom? The top gets off on the power of 'marking' the bottom (so to speak) and the bottom gets off on being marked.

No, I haven't, would be hot though. Always wonder and kinda hope that I'll find some of the hot guys I work with at the hospital, but any of those are prolly anonymous

I like your thought process on this ChileanTop. You had me at "In the caverns..." :). Seriously though, I have often described myself as "feeling like a bitch in heat" when I am horny. I love the idea of a "competence trigger" evoked that causes a top to ejaculate more cum into my hole because their is a mechanism in him to win the prize, so to speak. From a bottom point of view, it may explain why as a bottom I have an almost insatiable desire for more cum, especially after the first load goes in. Most bottoms here will probably agree, the more cum they get, the more they seem to want. Except most gay tops are intellectually evolved and if some of the cum from another top leaks out, they will either eat it or push it back in... Seems gays are more civilized.

lol FelchingPisser... and I would totally spread my legs for you... but then, you're obviously not cumming from a bottom point of view (so to speak)

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ditto ff-whole. I went 35 years taking bb cock and stayed neg. I m a cum slut and have prolly had thousands of cocks and loads in that time and was always kinda worried about HIV, but never enough to overcome my desire for cum and cock in me. I got some great information and encouragement here on BZ from tallbtm, finally got educated and decided to go on PrEP. When I went in to get my std check and to start PrEP, I found out I was Poz. Not the end of the world, am pretty much still taking PrEP now (truvada) and one other pill and am undetectable and totally healthy. Still, I'm not one who actually wants to be infected, even though in 2017 it's not a death sentence, nor does it really present with side effects for me. I personally think PrEP awesome and wish all guys who bareback would go on it, but I'm in healthcare and not into disease :-).

halfway ditto. Not a fan of fetching either. I rarely even rim (almost never), but if I do it has to be very clean. I am not into strong smells at all. I like stuff like deodorant and clean asses and crotches. If i get a hint there something more than cum in there, it turns me off. I was at a bathhouse last week and a guy came into the dark room and started making out with me and wanted me to fuck him. It was towards the end of the night and i was getting ready to leave, so it's been my recent policy to breed a hole vs wasting cum jacking, so I would have. I always finger a hole first, if it comes back smelling unclean, I have zero desire to breed that hole. I asked him first if he was clean, and he said "I always use a condom." I laughed, sad how so many still associate an STD with "unclean." I clarified, "do you douche?" He just looked at me mystified and when I fingered him, he obviously didn't. So I passed. Same with rimming, cum filled or not, if I smell anything like feces, it isn't going to happen. But even if a bottoms hole was the cleanest, sweetest hole in the world (and I love a mans ass, I think it's the sexiest part of his anatomy), I still wouldn't fetch the cum out of it. To me, cum belongs in a guys hole and taking it out would almost border on sacrilegious lol. Bottoms work hard to get their holes loaded, I'm going to either add to it or push it back in, but I'm not gonna remove it. ;-)

Right with you on this. When I look at porn, it has to seem 'real' to me in order for it to work. If I sense at all that it's just guys putting on a show, I stop it right then. It's the stuff that at least looks like a real encounter between lusty guys that pulls me in. Attempts to pull that off with actors can be laughable. Some of the hottest porn I like is video taken where the guys being videod are not aware of being recorded. There used to be a guy on xtube (i think) who would record understall action in restrooms. There were several stalls, and he would record other guys who would be having sex under the stalls next to him. Was so fucking hot, especially when understall fucking was caught. Another hot scenario is anonymous walk in breeding where a bottom has hidden cameras set up and is waiting ass up for an anonymous load, and all of that is recorded without the anonymous top knowing. but really, the only thing that gets me off is real stuff, especially when there is no self consciousness of them knowing they are being recorded. I also LOVE creeper porn. have a huge fantasy of being bred by a "creeper" while I'm asleep. Course, that's really hard to pull off, the bottom pretty much has to be passed out for that to be real, and you can tell if it's put on usually, which again is kinda cheesy lol.

Hi tallbtm, et al, Yes, this is it for me too. As a bottom, I find there are different ways to fill the gap (so to speak) because the whole I seek to fill is not just physical. For me the drive of being a bottom seems to revolve around having another guys cum in me. However, if I could go to a cum store and just buy a bottle of cum to put in my hole, it wouldn't be the same. So, when I consider, "what is it about the delivery that I desire," I can identify several things. Probably at the top of the list is desire. In this respect, I think this is where tops and bottoms are the same in what motivates them. As a bottom, I love the top who I sense has this all consuming desire to breed me. The desire that I be a reseptical for their seed is a huge turn on. I think the top is similarly turned on by the bottoms desire for them to place their seed in them. IOW, both are getting off on being desired, even though it's different roles. Though it seems to be changing, we live in a largely patriarchal, male dominated world. A huge part of patriarchal culture is that women submit to men. The term "pussy" or "cunt" is associated with women, and by default, associated with submission. Not always, of course. There are all sorts of variations depending on the people involved, but crudely, and at it's root, "pussy" and "cunt" started out as pretty much derogatory terms used on women. When they are used with a guy, they can carry the flavor and history of meaning and intent, and they seem to summon up feelings that are probably seated somewhere in our lizard brain lol, i.e., where our emotional response hits us before it is processed by the 'higher brain.' The whole cave man, rough sex thing can have some appeal to me, but I am much more captivated by intelligent intent. When a top or Dom guy refers to my hole as a pussy with a derogatory tone, it can trigger one of two responses. If I sense he is just a bully, I am completely turned off, and even angry to the point of wanting to back kick him into the next room lol. That almost never happens. When I sense he is using the term to verbalize the dynamic of Dom/sub in recognition of our mutual desires, he totally has me and I fold into him. Along the line of working the mutual desire angle, I have encountered some Dom guys who use the terms "pussy" or "cunt" without any derogatory connotation. That's my favorite, but I don't encounter it often. Really happens more in a FB set up than a hook up, for me. That's when the higher brain or "mind fuck" kicks in, and it's the hottest thing to experience. I've had a few of these type relationships where the top/Dom guy not only referred to my hole as a "pussy", etc., but referred to me as a pussy, or his pussy. There's no overtly demeaning tone, even affection. The power exchange is so complete, there doesn't have to be any 'force' in the term or attitude, because the top/Dom has already captured me, knows it and the term becomes an acknowledgement of that.

I don't use the term referring to myself, but use it as a reflection of the top. I came out to a friend yesterday who I have worked with for 2.5 years, she was shocked. Many of the women I work with have hit on me. I think I am obviously gay, but then, I know me. She said there is nothing feminine about me, and it really is true. I don't see anything wrong with that, I just am not. The big turn on for me when a top or Dom guy calls me or my hole a "pussy" is not the word so much as the attitude behind it. It's more the attitude of power and control that cums along with it. And that doesn't happen with all tops/Doms. I find bullies weak and boring, a total turn off. There is a mind fuck that some guys have that makes me wildly sub and open, wanting to be bred by them even more... kind of an "on" switch. When that is conveyed in their use of the word "pussy" , I fucking love it.

I fuck rarely, but when I do, it is with the intent of breeding an ass. I don't want to be sucked off and pretty much just tolerate it to please the other guy if he is into it, but I don't want to waste my load there. When I cum, it's usually hard (like over my head if I jack) and a lot. I have come to the place where I save it for a pussy and want to plant it deep into a hungry pussy if I'm going to fuck. I love it when a bottom cums while I am fucking him and it will often trigger me to cum, probably because I was married to a woman for most of my life and trained myself not to cum until she did, so a bottom orgasming is a trigger for me. Yes, absolutely love the feel of his hole spasming and clamping down on my cock, makes me cum harder, but prefer he be hands free. If I am topping, I like the feel of being in control of all the pleasure and want the bottom to be a total bottom (at least when I am fucking him).

ditto. I've had occasions where a top will pull out with the intent of shooting on my ass or on the outside of my body and my internal response borders on animal. If I sense a top is going to pull out to cum, I'll push my pussy back onto him, pulling his cock deep inside and clamping down, milking to try and get him to lose control and cum deep inside me instead. For me I feel kind of incomplete if a top doesn't plant his come inside me, and feel much more complete when I know that that is where he wanted it or needed it to be.

I'm not "always" thinking of it, I have a job where I keep people alive and sometimes have to focus on other stuff. But getting bred is always just under the surface when it isn't on the surface and it seems to take little to nothing to bring it to the surface. I will take any cock in my pussy any time any top wants it, that does seem to be an intrinsic drive for me.

I think your profile is direct, but not obnoxious. I find a certain number of profiles that turn into a rant. I get it, guys get tired of flakes or just a failure to hook with the guy they want, so they start going on about what they think is the wrong kinda person and who needs to stay away. I think that kind of profile just drives people away, it does me, even if I am exactly what they seem to want. Also, for me, profiles are static, but I can be fluid, so my profile gets adjusted depending where I am at on a given day. No matter what I write though, and I am generally pretty direct, there always seems to be some who are blind to what is written. I don't know if they are illiterate, ignorant, or if they hope they can convince me otherwise, but I mostly just take it in stride anymore and remind them of what the profile says. I think some guys just look at pictures and use their imagination without even reading the profile lol, Idk. I also think newbies may not relate to distinct identities like "total top" or "total bottom", some don't seem to understand what it means.

Interesting... pretty much 100% consensus. Me too. It's not just the cum that I want, it's what the cum represents, that the top is sated and I now have a part of him inside me even after he leaves.

Ive been a bottom for most of my life... in my gay life. I was married for most of my life to a very sub woman, so I was a top in that relationship. Very recently I have been getting into topping after I have been fucked, if I cannot find anyone else to top and instead of jacking off and wasting my cum. Im kinda surprised by this turn in me. I have always loved mens asses, my favorite part of his anatomy visually, so I checked the "bottom versatile" box... which is new to me.

This sounds about like my experiences at the local sleazy ABS. It is hit or miss, but when it's "hit" is usually get 4 or 5 loads in rapid succession. I love it, cept I'll take any offered cock, guess I'm a total slut, don't want to ever miss out on a load.

I love the hole idea of dark rooms. The only one I have been to is at Hawks in Portland OR. To me it's not really dark, just kinda dim, and it's more of a large closet than a room. I envision a real room that's got a few fuck horses and slings, where it's dark enough that you have to be careful. I wish I could find something like that, it would be hard for me to leave once my ass was in the air and available.

Not really advice (sorry), butt I hear you. Honestly I think a lot of this has to do with the tops technique? I have the same issue with it being uncomfortable, but if the top is cognizant, I find it a hot experience even with the discomfort (I guess because of the idea of it). I had a BBC recently who mentioned before we hooked that he liked long fuck. I do too, depending on the top. I typically have really good experience with black tops and this guy didn't disappoint. It's like his cock was a true extension of himself and he used it like a probe. It seemed like he could really feel my second ring around the tip of his cock and he fucked accordingly, kind of like some tops to with the first hole, just kinda playing and teasing it. He coaxed it open instead of forcing through and had me totally under his power.

oh yeah, this one makes me crazy. I want your cum. I sorta get if the top is trying to spread himself around and not cum right away. But I go insane (inside) if the top pulls out and cums on me instead of in me. What a fucking waste of cum!! Otherwise, I get it. Honestly, I get most of the complaints here. I get that someone simply may not be into me for whatever their list of reasons, and I'm okay with that. Competitive bottoms piss me off. I've been in ABS where they will purposely close the door to the booth next to others to redirect traffic to the booth next to theirs. WTF? that is so stupidly childish.